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Officer 43

Location of interview:Beverley

Officer's Gender:Male

Date joined Met Police:14 May 1962

Date left Met Police:13 May 1992

Rank of leaving:Chief Superintendent

Divisons served:

Specialist service:Royalty Protection

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Track2: 5’50” Life before the Metropolitan Police Service: Growing up in St Fergus, attending the country school, working on the farms and joining the Metropolitan Police Service at 19.  Reason for joining the Metropolitan Police Service. Family’s reaction to decision. Siblings' career choice. Seeing his first black person. Acceptance process: interview stage, medical, formal interview, expenses and letter. Peel House in Victoria for 13 weeks. Impressions of the regime: Tommy Wall, marching, regimented and posting. Posting to F division and Notting Hill.  Discusses  racial policing and tackling crimes between white and black people.

Track 3: 8’38” Working in Notting Hill: parading, protocol, discipline and working a  beat. Sergeant supervision, cars and vans, police boxes and mischief. Community policing and busy working life. Incident in Ladbroke Grove and tackling a female with no police support. Race riots against property: West Indians community and the Notting Hill carnival. Walking  the  beat. Canteen run by West Indians. Canteen culture. Ex-serviceman community in the Metropolitan Police Service. Recalls seeing a suicide for the first time. Learning about policing. Police section house in Hammersmith.

Track 4: 4’33” Women police officers: 1960s gender divisions of the Metropolitan Police Service and the women’s section house.  Incident of raiding vice and discovering that most were females in drag. Women’s police unit and duties: children and domestics.  Male chauvinism and relations with female officers.

Track 5: 0’49” Impressions of Sergeants and Inspectors.

Track 6: 6’01” Impressions of Sergeants and Inspectors and their duties.  Relationship with Scottish Sergeant and an old Sergeant linked to the section house.  Chief Superintendent and Inspectors role: vice and admin.  Contact and relationship with higher ranks.  CID department and their relationship with PCs.  1962 Challenor and West End Central scandals.

Track 7: 2’49” Interests and hobbies in London: cross-country running, social life with colleagues and visits to Scotland. Marriage in 1965, joining Vice 1964 rather than CID. Educational exams to become Sergeant and training in Hammersmith.

Track 8: 14’59” Marriage and wife’s perception of career. Impact of policing on family life. Chasing black people who carried knives (1.30).  Passing Sergeants exam and moving to Harrow Road. Working as  Sergeant and impact on relationship with PCs.  Enjoyment of roles and jobs as a Sergeant.  Station Sergeants exam and posting to Wembley with the number 1 Q 1969. Working as a Station Sergeant: variety of roles, aiding the Inspectors, working in the charge room and overseeing the smooth running of the station. Working in Wembley and incident of a black man arriving at the station following his girlfriend assaulting him.  Problems of manpower.  Living in Stanmore and working in Wembley.  Supergrass. Wembley stadium.  Policing racial incidents: procedure and protocol.

Track 9: 3’35” Leaving Wembley and Commander putting him forward for promotion as Royalty Protection Officer.  Sir Edward Perkins undertook the interview.   Princess Anne’s police officer left and Micheal Trestrail the Commander posted him to the position.  Recalls working as Princess Anne’s police officer.

Track 10: 25’45” Working with Princess Anne.Qualifications for posting: Driving courses, firearms and experience. Working at Wimbledon.  Recalls working with Princess Anne 1973-1979: standard duties and roles, introducing the motorbike, security checks, tackling the media and organizing smooth running of her schedules.  1974 incident against Princess Anne involving a white Ford Escort, shooting and problems tackling the attacker with no communications.  PC Michael Hills assistance at the scene.  Feelings and reflections about the incident. Recovering from the injuries at Westminster hospital.  Dealing with the media attention after the event.  Returning after recovering in Hove and receiving a £38 cheque.  Discusses the process of returning to work.Discusses the return to work and the introduction of new technology, equipment and support.

Track 11: 2’18” Impact of police work on his wife.  Procedure taken to inform his wife and family about the incident with Princess Anne.

Track 12: 2’35” Return to work with Princess Anne: training and resettling into the routine. Decision to leave protection service and promotion to Chief Inspector at Kensington.

Track 13: 8’02” Working as a Chief Inspector: admin, investigating complaints and operations. Working on Sundays.  Iranian siege and policing the aftermath.  Demands of the Kensington area. Incident of a traffic warden becoming pregnant by a PC.  Undertaking disciplinary investigations. Meeting with Colin Smith and steps to draw him back to protection.  Politics involved in Royalty police work.  Brixton Riots and official approach by Colin Smith with a promotion offer. Working as a protection officer with the Queen.

Track 14: 14’38” 1983 working as protection officer with the Queen.  Discusses the procedure and protocol involved in the protection work surrounding the Queen.  Role in arranging the escort work.  Protection team.  Discusses the difference in the work with the Queen to Princess Anne’s protection duties: Lack of spontaneity in the Queen’s schedule and the demands of the work.Reflects on the importance of Royalty Protection service.  Further training and fitness tests. Procedure and protocol for protection of Princess Margaret.  Explains the decision to introduce the motorbike to Royal protection. The impact of the motorbike and improved communications on the protection service.  Discusses the character of colleagues.

Track 15: 10’25” Decision to leave the police protection service and retirement after 30 years. Preparing colleagues and the protection team for his departure.  Female protection officers and implication in the selection process for police protection service.  Prince William’s female protection officer.  Discusses the practical problems affecting females in the protection service. Succession planning for retirement.  Reflections and regrets about his career in the Metropolitan Police Service.  Problems affecting other police officers.

Track 16: 5’10” Plans for retirement and return to Aberdeen as security manager for ELF Oil. Daughters plans.  Redundancy and return to England. Friends, family and neighbours perceptions of his career past.   Reflections and regrets about career choice.  Changes in the Metropolitan Police Service.

Track 17: 1’36” Last thoughts about time spent in the Metropolitan Police Service. Institutionalised police officers.

Track 18: 4’21” Wife of officer 43 and her reflections on his career.  Incident of 1974 and the attack on Princess Anne.  Daughters reaction to the incident and enjoyment of visiting the royal palace.


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